Rainy Days Are Common In NY state!

What do you do when you use solar for your energy source and it rains? Not a one day rain. Here in New York state we get a lot of rain.  More than our fair share, I am afraid. I am not complaining though as many people I know online are complaining about how hot their states are. Or how dry they are. I love to garden and I love green trees, lawns and plants. I love having my hand-dug well refilled constantly by much rain and snow all year round. Yet if you are using solar for your source of electricity it can be hard to generate without the sun. If it sticks it’s head out a bit from time to time, you will get some. But the way our day looks today so far, we will not be seeing any sunshine on our solar panels.

No Sunshine!

So what we do is run our generator. It is a noise you cannot get away from. I have heard many that are much louder. One year for Christmas my husband’s family gave us a Coleman generator for a present. It was much louder than this one. It was made for camping and power outages. Not for an off-the-grid home charging it’s batteries. It did not last very long. Too much work for that little generator. We, after all…………are NOT camping!

The Generator Charges The Batteries

The generator we use is built for an off-the-grid home. It is really a kit that is sold at Backwoods Solar. According to Backwoods Solar, where we purchased our generator, “The rule of your alternative energy system is to buy a really GOOD engine driven generator and then use it as little as possible!”

It is possible to run a low-cost engine driven car alternator to charge batteries when you don’t need an expensive AC generator. Charge amps adjust manually and will hold your settings and not taper off. The AC alternator delivers over 55 amps or will run 40-50 amps at an easy low engine speed. Runs very quietly if adapted to an exhaust hose and automobile muffler. Will run several hours on one tank of gasoline. Most of the time we run it for a short period of time until the sun finally takes over.

Backwoods Solar sells one of these that comes in a kit. This is what we use and it has made a world of difference. We used to charge our batteries with a vehicle driven up to the house, and connected it that way. The exhaust was horrible! And it ran for hours, and used so much gas. This way is so much easier and quicker.

The complete kit at Backwoods Solar consists of a new 6.5 horsepower electric start Briggs “INTEK” overhead valve engine mounting base plate with belt tension adjuster, alternator, rheostat field control box with amp meter. Includes 5′ pulley and 26” belt on the 12 volt model. It can be bought without the engine, if you have one of your own. Sells now for $935.00 plus shipping. It is item number GK-KIT/12 volt.

So it runs on a day like today when all we are getting is rain. It will charge our batteries so we can be on our computers, use lights or whatever we want to do. If I chose to do laundry in my brand new energy star washing machine or to bake bread in a bread machine, this would be the ideal time to do those types of chores. When the generator is running. As we add more and more solar panels over time, we will not have to run it as often. Right now we only have five panels and living in our state means you need a lot more than that. But we can get by for the time being. If you are in a southern or western state, chances are you will not need as many as we do because you get more sun. That makes all the difference with a solar energy system. Now if we add a wind turbine, that could help us in the winter as we get a lot of wind then.

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The Present Solar System At Peaceful Forest

I have had many people ask me lately how they can change from using the grid electric to setting up their own alternative energy system. I know it sounds easy from the things I write. The difference for us is we were not hooked up to any other system and didn’t have to deal with the electric company. So I am trying to think of things you can do to get started. It is not that easy to go buy a solar system for your house if you don’t have much money. They cost money. But you can start with one 50 watt panel, a charge controller, an automotive inverter and a couple of golf cart batteries. You can just plug your lamp (with an LED bulb) into the inverter……..and there it is — not running on your utility grid anymore!  As time goes by, you can add another panel.

For the time being here are some things you can do to get started if you cannot afford the equipment. These may look trivial. It is NOT! You must learn to conserve your electric use if you truly want to live off-the-grid or partly off-the-grid.

• 1. Replace all your light bulbs first of all with LEDs.
• 2. If you need to replace an appliance, always choose the most energy efficient appliance you can afford.
• 3. If you are presently using an electric stove, replace it with a gas stove. I know, you thought you could use your stove for free………….well, you can’t. Appliances that use heat are always big drains on your system. In the long run, propane is cheaper. I use both propane and wood and it doesn’t cost too much. All winter I can cook with wood as we have two stoves going. Depends on what you are doing for heat too.
• 4. If you are using a desk top computer, replace it with an energy star laptop. My husband and I both use Lenovo ThinkPads and they have many energy efficient options. We use them plugged into the system and have found them to be very easy to use and are not energy hogs. I love mine!
• 5. Stop using your clothes dryer! They use a lot of power and it is better for your laundry anyway to hang it. In the winter I hang mine upstairs, but if you have a basement with a furnace, then that would be the perfect place to hang it.
• 6. Replace your electric coffee maker with a coffee percolator that perks on your stove. Better coffee too!
• 7. Take a look at your electric gadgets to see what you really need, and what you can get rid of. Like electric can openers, electric tea pots — really! Give me a break, how hard is it to heat water on the stove? I use an electric mixer, and that has been something I could use right from the start of living on our system.

I will be adding more posts like this one to try to help my followers/readers who are just getting started or want to get started. If you are an experienced solar user and have ideas to add to this basic idea, please let me know and I will add it to my next post on this subject. All ideas to help our readers get more independent are welcome!

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Your Off-The-Grid Homestead Can Be Beautiful!

Nick Rosen, of the Off-The-Grid forum,  recently released his book, Off the Grid: Inside the Movement for More Space, Less Government, and True Independence in Modern America in July. I read this book with great interest to learn more about other “off-the-gridders”. I found the history of General Electric eye opening and read aloud many parts of that chapter to my husband.  I especially loved the part about General Electric marketing directly to the housewives in those early years to lure them into buying electric appliances. It paid off too. Now nobody can live without many of those items and they are considered essential in most homes.

Nick Rosen is a journalist and documentary filmmaker and writes about living off-the-grid for the London Times, The Guardian and Reuters. He traveled across America interviewing people who were willing to let him into their homes and wrote his opinion of them and their lifestyle for this book. I understand from his book that living full time off-the-grid is not something he does currently but something he would like to do in the future. From his forum I get the feeling that he is promoting going off-the-grid and many of his members are either already doing it or dreaming about it.

One of the things that I find misleading about his book, “off the grid” is that many people will think it is about how to live off the grid, or about how to set up the various systems that the people live with. It is not. It is about what Nick Rosen terms the off the grid movement.  As I wrote in an earlier post, “Why We Chose To Live Off-The-Grid” :

“It has lately came to my attention that there is what is thought of as a movement.  A movement to live off-the-grid, like the back-to-the-land movement or the hippie movement or whatever particular movement you can think of. Funny, I didn’t think of living off-the-grid as having any political stance. I can only speak for my husband and myself, but we had only one reason in mind on moving into a house that was off-the-grid. That was because we wanted to be in a secluded location………..but close enough to some small towns to be able to drive a horse and buggy. The other house we were looking at had 25 acres of land with it and was hooked up to the grid but the whole electrical system had to be over hauled and we figured we would just not hook it up. We were leaning toward that property but what was keeping us from it was that it was on a main road and at the time our dog, Nikita was an active puppy and we were afraid of her getting hit by a car. So when the realtor gave us this listing and we finally went to see it we liked it immediately………..because it was surrounded completely by the state forest.”

I liked reading and learning about so many other people living this way, as personally, I only know a handful. Nick Rosen gives you the picture that people living this way are ecentric characters and living this way out of necessity or political reasons. Many people living this way are doing neither. I won’t mention the pot growers or smokers, as that has nothing to do with being off-the-grid. I know people living on the grid who do both too. One thing I feel we have in common with many of the people interviewed is the need for seclusion. The feeling that the world is too crowded and needing space to live without someone breathing down your neck or at least at the front door. In my father-in-law’s house if you stand at the sink, you can see right into the neighbor’s dining room and see exactly what they are eating! Not for us, that is for sure. Nick introduced me to many people that I would be interested in meeting in person and discussing our systems or how we do certain household chores.

I especially was glad to meet Wretha as she is one of my regular blog readers on here. Carolyn Chute I liked because she was the author of the book, The Beans of Egypt, Maine, and I read that many years ago. But for the most part most of the people in the book are not anything like my husband and myself, so I wouldn’t figure that all people living off-the-grid are like them. Makes me wonder if he wrote about us, what kind of picture he would paint about us? Maybe not so good………..hmmmm????

I don’t mean to give the impression that I didn’t enjoy his book because I did. I liked reading his impressions of  the off-the-grid lifestyle here in America since he is from Britain. It is also informative if you are searching for a community where you can go off-the-grid and fit right in. I have so many people contact me on this subject, but they are either just dreaming of it and not really serious, or they are afraid to take those first steps to do away with life as they know it on the grid. This book proves it can be done and that you do not need tons of money to start. Just what I have told people over and over.

So check it out and let me know what your thoughts on the off-the-grid movement is. Is just that you don’t want the electric  bill any longer? Or is that you want to live away from mainstream America in a secluded location? Or is there another reason? I’d be interested in knowing what people are thinking when they request the information from me on going off-the-grid.

Cooking over the fire with cast iron!

Our kids always compared living here to being on a vacation or camping. Well, it was never like being on a vacation to us because we work to keep our place running smoothly. With horses, there is work to be done daily as well. Our water needs to be brought inside every morning and sometimes in the evening, if I used a lot during the day. But there are a lot of things you can use on your off-the-grid homestead that is really just regular camping gear. Since I knew we would not have any electric at all when we first moved here I bought some items that campers use. One of them was the pyramid toaster which I love. We also have one of those popcorn poppers that you shake. It is made for using over a campfire but we have used it plenty right on our gas cooking stove, as well as the wood cook stove.

Some of the items that are regarded as camping equipment were originally designed for normal living back before they were used for camping. My favorite cookware is made of cast iron. I have a variety of pots, skillets and Dutch ovens and use them daily. Nothing is better or easier to use than a well seasoned cast iron pan! My daily dishes are the granite ware dishes and kettles and coffee pot that are sold in most camping stores. I like these because I can keep them in my warming oven all the time and serve hot food on warm plates. You can also set them on a burner or in your oven without worry they will melt or burn. I use the granite ware cups for melting butter all the time. My wood cook stove has a butter melter built on, and you can set the cup on that to melt butter for a recipe. So easy!

A variety of cast iron for cooking is essential!

Some other items we used pretty regular was the coleman table top stove that is used for camping. Of course, we still use lanterns as well as kerosene lamps. But lanterns are pretty much available in all camping stores. The lantern makes a good light to carry out to the barn to check your livestock or take a walk to the outhouse. A lantern for a night light in a house is safe if you have cats, as I always worried about them knocking over a lamp. Another item you can pick up in any most any store nowadays is the coolers or ice chests. A camping store may have a bigger variety and price ranges. It is true you get what you pay for so if you are just using it to store your soda or beer that is one thing. But if you are storing meat, dairy foods and condiments you may want to spend a little bit more and get a really good one.

Eventually we changed over to having most modern conveniences if we wanted them. There are still some items that we keep using since using our own solar system does not mean we want to waste our power.  We have to monitor how much power each gadget or electrical device uses. Can’t go crazy here as we don’t plan on adding too many panels at one time. Building our system slowly over time so it is more affordable that way. Just want to add that there are many items that may be considered to be “old fashioned” by others, but for us they are the choice we have made for that task. Such as the toaster. I will never buy an electrical one……..ever! I hate them and love the way I toast my bread with the pyramid toaster. Some electrical gadgets to me seem to be silly things that have been invented to just make money off lazy people. An electric tea pot? Come on, give me a break! Who buys these things? How hard is it to heat water on a stove?

You can still pack some picnic baskets and go on a camping trip or just take a hike in the forest and get away. Just because you are living off-the-grid doesn’t mean you will never want to leave home and go on a vacation. Many times you might just need to get away. So do it and come home refreshed and ready to dig into those homestead chores!

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It has lately came to my attention that there is what is thought of as a movement.  A movement to live off-the-grid, like the back-to-the-land movement or the hippie movement or whatever particular movement you can think of. Funny, I didn’t think of living off-the-grid as having any political stance. I can only speak for my husband and myself, but we had only one reason in mind on moving into a house that was off-the-grid. That was because we wanted to be in a secluded location………..but close enough to some small towns to be able to drive a horse and buggy. The other house we were looking at had 25 acres of land with it and was hooked up to the grid but the whole electrical system had to be over hauled and we figured we would just not hook it up. We were leaning toward that property but what was keeping us from it was that it was on a main road and at the time our dog, Nikita was an active puppy and we were afraid of her getting hit by a car. So when the realtor gave us this listing and we finally went to see it we liked it immediately………..because it was surrounded completely by the state forest.

I like the independence. I like the freedom. I love the fact that we do not have to pay an electric bill. I also think we both love it that there are no ugly wires strung to our house. Even our wires to our telephone are underground…………even under the road. Our wires to our solar panels that are now on top of our barn roof are underground to the barn and then go upstairs and out the roof. You don’t see them. I feel our home is a mix of old fashioned living with high technology. We use some old fashioned methods but not because they are old fashioned, but because those methods might be best suited for us. We do not like to use gasoline powered items unless we have to. Like gas lawn mowers, rototillers, trimmers, etc.

We like relying on ourselves as much as we can. Yes, we have to interact with some outside forces. Such as internet connection, telephone company, propane company, tax man and a variety of business expenses but for the most part, we are left alone. This year, I expect to get a lot of food stored up and hopefully get more work done on our house. We see progress every year but it is never enough for us. Slow…..but sure is our motto. This year we have done quite a bit here at Peaceful Forest Homestead. Such as:

1. Battery room is almost all walled in with cinder blocks.

2. Pipe going into our well to be hooked up when we can get our pump and pressurized tank.

3. Electric wire going to the barn from the house.

4. Solar panels on top of the barn roof.

5. Midnight Solar box installed in barn.

6. Pantry gutted.

7. Root cellar all cleaned out.

8. Stone bench built in root cellar.

9. Cherry tree trimmed in back yard.

10. Fence line on front of paddock moved back.

11. New door on the upstairs entry into barn.

It doesn’t sound like a lot but combine those jobs with the job of horse care, household chores all done manually, wood work, gardening and preserving food and running a home-based business consisting of two websites and four blogs and selling items on Bonanzle, Amazon and Homesteading Today’s Barter board, three cats and one big dog…………….whew!

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When we first started out here at Peaceful Forest Homestead using solar, as I have told many times before here, and on my other blog, Homesteading On The Internet, we had one 55 watt panel, a very tiny charge controller (so tiny in fact, it has no name on it anywhere) and used an automotive inverter from Walmart and two fork-lift truck batteries. If we needed to charge our batteries we had to bring our car up to the window and hook it up and let it run. Yuck! You can imagine the smell and the noise! I always remember my pet hen, Lil’ Red for some unknown reason, would hang out around the stinky car while it was running. We went through a lot of gas that way. The one panel we had was on a wooden frame and we would move it around the yard to try to keep it in the sun! Of course, we were new to this solar power stuff.

So here it is eleven years later and everything has changed. We still have a small system. Though it has, and is still growing. Our panels have grown to five, they are now on our barn roof. Every morning they are getting good sun. We have had them bringing in as much as 21 amps which is the most we have ever had. Right now as I am writing this, they are bringing in 15 amps. What a difference!  And for longer periods of time too.

The important thing is that we are independent of the utility company. No matter what, we are on our own and not dependent on the electric dictator. Our power has never gone out unless it was from the fault of something in our power system. Which we did have that happen a few years back. But once it was fixed with the expert advice from Backwoods Solar, where we purchased a good share of our equipment, we were up and running. Haven’t had any issues since then. Never have to call the electric dictator to complain about the bill or make arrangements to pay it. Nothing like that! And no matter how cheap your bill is………..you still are giving someone else money to run your house. I don’t care if it is thirty or forty dollars a month or less, you could be putting that in your pocket instead. It is your choice though and I am not writing this blog to convince anyone to change to using solar or any other alternative power system. I am just telling you that it is possible to do even if you are on a strict budget. Our system went together little by little, dollar by dollar.

So not only am I happy every morning when we have sun for my garden but for my solar system as well. July should be a good sunny month for us here but you never know as the part of New York we live in gets lots of rain. I know on the horizon is solar panels that get charged even on cloudy days and I know my husband would be happy to have those panels. Because someday we plan on having an electric car that is charged with our own power system.

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Since the weather warmed up my husband has been busy working on moving our solar panels to the barn roof. It entailed running the wires through the conduit that was buried underground in the fall. He had to then run the wire from there, through the barn and up the wall downstairs. Then through the ceiling up to the second floor of the barn. From there it had to go through the metal roof to where the panels would be placed on top of the barn roof. Whew! What a job that was! It was not easy as on any project like this, you do a little come to a problem and have to figure it out. Then go back to the store to get more parts or tools, and work on it some more. He said the wire was very hard to work with. It takes strong arms to get it through the conduit. He did it though with bad arms and shoulders. He also had to put in a grounding rod to protect it. All electrical systems have to be grounded.

From there the wiring had to be connected into the Midnight Solar Combiner Box. Smaller gauge wire is used from the combiner box to the solar panels on the barn roof. A combiner box is used to bring together the outputs of multiple series strings of panels and provide over current protection for each series string in the solar array. Inside the box positive and negative bus bars are used to parallel the output of each of these series strings. The box also allows you to transition between the solar panels and the batteries and/or inverter to minimize transmission voltage drop.

The National Electrical Code requires a breaker or fuse in the positive lead of each series of panels for over current protection. Series fusing prevents the possiblility of individual series strings of modules backfeeding another paralledled series string that develops an electric short circuit. Using a combiner box will give you a code-compliant, as well, as an organized wired network. To make it easier to understand, a combiner box hooks several panels into 1 DC output to connect to the charge controller. This is completely opposite of the typical home in which an AC circuit breaker panel takes 1 AC input and distributes it to several AC circuits.

As I told you in an earlier post on this blog, “This (Midnight Solar) combiner box will accommodate the 150 volt direct current charge controllers and 600 volt direct current grid-tie inverters. It is a water proof aluminum enclosure with an insulated dead front, that will take up to six 150 volt direct current breakers or four 600 volt direct current fuse holders. It runs about $109. more or less not including shipping.”

Then from there will be the job of carrying the solar panels up the ladder and putting in place on the racks on the top of the barn roof. It is not easy for someone working alone. But I am sure my husband will do the job as it needs to be done. After all, he did build our barn and put the roofing up himself. He wants it done so he can add more panels in the future and not have it be such a complicated job. I will be adding a post in a few days with the results of placing the panels up there.

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When anyone realizes that I don’t use a clothes dryer they really freak out! They cannot imagine living without one. Most homes have a washer and a dryer and if someone is at the laundromat it is usually due to one of those appliances breaking down. Like I have said many times on here, you have to sacrifice to have your own alternative energy system for a low amount of money. Money is what holds most people back. They will say to me, “my electric bill is only $40. a month, so it don’t pay for me to switch to my own system.” Or $10. a month. You’d be surprised how cheap some people say their electric bills are! I would not be surprised to hear them say that the electric company is paying them to use their power! LOL I don’t know why people feel compelled to explain to me why they aren’t using an alternative energy systems. That is their choice. I REALLY don’t care. For me using solar is the only way to have power. I have no choice as the grid power lines do not come to my house. And if I wanted to bring them here it would be way over $50,000. and that is no exaggeration.

The thing I am seeing about the future will be that everyone will be using solar and wind power………..but they will be paying the grid utility companies for it. You pay for someone to take care of your needs. That is fine for most of the people……..but I am talking about self-sufficiency and independence here. Not necessarily about the money. I like the freedom of not getting the electric bill. For going on eleven years we have not paid an electric bill. I can remember many times getting behind on our electric bills. I would have to pay a certain amount to keep the power on. Then pay some of the old bill and all of the new bill for the next few months. It was a struggle to say the least. We have gone through some bad times out here and if we had been hooked up, I figured it would have been turned off long ago.

But if you take the amount of money your electric bill cost and put that away for a year or two, then start buying your components………pretty soon you will be smiling! You will be saying, “look, my tv, lights and computer are running on my small system. They are not costing me to run them!” Or you will take out a small loan to buy a small system and in five years you will pay your last payment…….and you are on your own. No payment and no electric bill. I know, I know, I know, most of the people who will come here will say they love those electric grids. They love those wires strung throughout their states’ mountains and fields. They love paying those bills for the privilege of using thier own appliances in their own homes. So do I. But I don’t have to pay for it anymore. I cannot tell you how many times UPS or Federal Express drivers deliver something to my home and they turn their truck off…….yes, they turn their truck off and want to talk about our system. Now these guys and girls are usually in a big hurry to get their delivery done, but they make the time to stop and study it. In fact, one of our UPS drivers, a woman has had her own system installed the in last couple of years to power her soon to be built cordwood house.

Yes, it does make you use your appliances smarter. And if you have a spouse and children, you can even, in fact, teach them how to monitor the system themselves. I’d say it would be good for children to learn this as they are growing up in a time period when they will probably be powering their own homes with solar. Some of them may go on to be solar installers or work in the field in some way. Some of these children may decide to live as green as they can for their own children and grandchildren. To be independent and self-sufficient and not so wasteful. It seems to me that everyone has been proud of being wasteful but I think that time is changing. Our country is not the top one anymore and we have to start looking out for ourselves. An off-the-grid home has no choice as I said before, but other homes do and should take the time to learn about net zero homes and using other sources of power.

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Ditches dug in the fall when ground was soft.

My husband dug the ditches for the conduit that would hold the electrical wires and the ditch for the water pipe in the fall. He got the electric wire that is in the conduit back in the ground last  fall and covered it over before the ground froze.

The battery room

He started working on the well and the pipe that would go to it as soon as our snow had melted. We thought it was going to be a tougher job than it was. Knowing our hand dug well was put in when our house was built, which was in 1850, we had no idea what it would entail. Turns out that he just had to pull some of the rocks out that made the side of the well. It was pretty interesting to see what the inside of it looked like. From this photo you can see what it looks like, the pitcher pump sits on top on a thick flat cement block.

A glimpse inside the well.

Having our own source of water has been nice. I know many homesteaders and/or people who live off-the-grid have to drive somewhere to bring water in. Thank goodness we haven’t had to do that. Our water is very clean and fresh. Our horses are VERY critical of what water they drink and they will only drink it clean. No setting up an old bathtub for these fussy girls! I will like having it inside the house though. Getting tough carrying water for me.

Water pipe going into our hand dug well.

He used pvc pipe for the water. Once he got the pipe in he closed it back in with rock and field stones. Then he covered the whole ditch back in with dirt and compost over the top. As soon as the grass starts growing you will not even know it was dug up.

Rock filled the hole in around the pipe.

This has been a long process for us as my husband had to take the front porch off our house as well. It is all for the best as it needed replacing anyway. Not easy bringing in our wood and everything else through our sliding glass door though. Buying everything little by little as we can afford it. That keeps the work from being overwhelming I suppose. It will be a whole new thing for us to have running water in our house. But I will NEVER waste or take for granted…………….my water supply.

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This is the electric wire encased in the conduit underground.

The electrical wire has been run through conduit to protect it from the elements underground, coming  from the batteries in the new battery room to the barn. There the wire will be connected from the batteries to the Midnight Solar Combiner Box. There will be smaller wire from the combiner box to the solar panels on the barn roof.  This combiner box will accommodate the 150 volt direct current charge controllers and 600 volt direct current  grid-tie inverters. It is a water proof aluminum enclosure with an insulated dead front, that will take up to six 150 volt direct current breakers or four 600 volt direct current  fuse holders. It runs about $109. more or less not including shipping.

Midnight Solar Combiner Box installed on barn wall

Midnight Solar Combiner Box

CLICKSYS™ is a the rack system we are using to hold our solar panels on the barn roof.  I told about them in my January 9, 2010 post. They are not cheap but they are easier to work with and eliminate 40% of the labor. So we were sold on them. They are manufactured by Unirac. You can see in the photo two of the racks at the end of the barn. The solar panels will snap right into place on them and hopefully will be safe.

One of the roof racks in place on the roof.

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